tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5449677811690616608.post2783231254682608713..comments2023-12-15T21:49:46.651+01:00Comments on Pluralist Speaks: Caving InPluralist (Adrian Worsfold)http://www.blogger.com/profile/01922153724523820866noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5449677811690616608.post-29807143115907030472008-03-06T15:46:00.000+01:002008-03-06T15:46:00.000+01:00I rather agree Mary Clara - it may be rather optim...I rather agree Mary Clara - it may be rather optimistic to think Bishop Dawani can change their behaviour. The danger is that he will be used to legitimise their gathering - as in "We were welcomed by the bishop of the diocese".Pluralist (Adrian Worsfold)https://www.blogger.com/profile/01922153724523820866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5449677811690616608.post-24783161661264906802008-03-06T15:44:00.000+01:002008-03-06T15:44:00.000+01:00I don't think the Archbishop will disinvite any mo...I don't think the Archbishop will disinvite any more people, especially as there is no change of position in TEC since he decided to invite, and it is not simply a numbers matters nor predictions about future numbers. In fact he may well take a view that he has seen a falling away of those who are being absolute in not going to Lambeth. His emphasis is on the Advent Letter as a hook and Catholic ecclesiology as an outcome.<BR/><BR/>(You sound very much like the NP late of Thinking Anglicans and attending at Holy Trinity Brompton.)Pluralist (Adrian Worsfold)https://www.blogger.com/profile/01922153724523820866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5449677811690616608.post-46969353699964869022008-03-06T12:12:00.000+01:002008-03-06T12:12:00.000+01:00There is also the 'harm reduction' argument for at...There is also the 'harm reduction' argument for attending. By being there, he at least is privy to their conversations, can see first-hand what they are up to, and may be in a position to modify their behaviour so as to minimise damage to his diocese. He is really in an impossible position and does deserve and need our prayers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5449677811690616608.post-41010643653488353992008-03-06T11:41:00.000+01:002008-03-06T11:41:00.000+01:00You will see many more going to GAFCON and many wi...You will see many more going to GAFCON and many will go to both GAFCON and Lambeth.<BR/><BR/>Do not think the game is over yet....you may well yet see +Akinola at Lambeth if the ABC changes his mind and disinvites those who "consecrated" VGR....better to lose a few bishsops fom a 800k church in the US than 30m+ Anglicans in Africa<BR/><BR/>The ABC is scared that GAFCON will have the representatives of more of the world's Anglicans than Lambeth...and all the growing provinces. No point Lambeth being 3 weeks of chat for a western liberal church that will have all but disappeared in half a century (at current rates of decline, despite being ever so "inclusive")Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5449677811690616608.post-85526748120923876612008-03-05T23:21:00.000+01:002008-03-05T23:21:00.000+01:00That's fair and more charitable comment than mine....That's fair and more charitable comment than mine.Pluralist (Adrian Worsfold)https://www.blogger.com/profile/01922153724523820866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5449677811690616608.post-12819764878977192462008-03-05T23:00:00.000+01:002008-03-05T23:00:00.000+01:00Yet he is doing the polite thing as Bishop of the ...Yet he is doing the polite thing as Bishop of the area when other bishops are visiting. He was not treated so politely here in Sydney by the Jensenites. He shows the GAFCONites up for what they are - rude little people full of their own self-importance and so sure they are right. Let us not criticise him but pray for him.Brian Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10802352695666737088noreply@blogger.com