tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5449677811690616608.post3928656316230457072..comments2023-12-15T21:49:46.651+01:00Comments on Pluralist Speaks: Holy IntriguePluralist (Adrian Worsfold)http://www.blogger.com/profile/01922153724523820866noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5449677811690616608.post-5710784990055957602009-02-24T19:07:00.000+01:002009-02-24T19:07:00.000+01:00Well I thought about it and thought about it befor...Well I thought about it and thought about it before I passed it through. Also it detracts from the whole point I was making, which is a general immorality about the Roman Catholic Church as it reaches for ever purer dogma. To me, people like Williamson are plain evil.<BR/><BR/>I think these revisionists undermine the horror of the holocaust and it cannot be treated as just one more subject. Under the Nazis life was cheap but it was also cruel, intensely cruel.Pluralist (Adrian Worsfold)https://www.blogger.com/profile/01922153724523820866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5449677811690616608.post-22963637938478998952009-02-24T14:54:00.000+01:002009-02-24T14:54:00.000+01:00Adrian,I am disappointed you would even truck this...Adrian,<BR/>I am disappointed you would even truck this comment. My father and my wife's father both fought in world war II. One of my college professors/friends opened up Bergen-Belsen and had first had pictures. The treat of one group of people by another is abominable. There is NO debate. This can never happen again. This is not good debate, this is pandering to the basest instincts.Frank Remkiewicz aka “Tree”https://www.blogger.com/profile/00501821790434895826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5449677811690616608.post-6918193143110183842009-02-24T08:35:00.000+01:002009-02-24T08:35:00.000+01:00Michael SantomauroYou emailed me more information ...Michael Santomauro<BR/><BR/>You emailed me more information about the book, asked me to be open minded and said that the "the veracity of Holocaust assertions should be determined in the marketplace of scholarly discourse and not in our legislatures bodies and courthouses."<BR/><BR/>This is a smokescreen.<BR/>There IS no serious doubt about the veracity of the Holocaust, just a dishonourable campaign by self styled "scholars" to obscure the truth.<BR/><BR/>I shall never be "open minded" about attempts to treat this as a serious academic enterprise instead of leaving it in the gutters, where it belongs.<BR/><BR/>The more you elevate nauseous talk like this to the status of academic research, the more people will believe that it has credibility.<BR/><BR/>Most will not be educated and historically trained enough to make genuine judgements, and it will end up being a matter of "belief".<BR/><BR/>This most horrifying, planned and carefully executed event in history could happen only because people were "open minded" and because they did not want to believe the possibility of the rumours and the evidence before their eyes being true. <BR/><BR/>Please do not write to me again.Erika Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01812376497361267014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5449677811690616608.post-35075336385297979702009-02-24T05:04:00.000+01:002009-02-24T05:04:00.000+01:00I agree with you Erika. It's the sheer horror and ...I agree with you Erika. It's the sheer horror and misery that was taken to such a desperate condition for so many. And had Hitler not invaded the Soviet Union, and Britain been compromised (as many in the elite wanted), the slavery to death, the casual killing and deliberate mass killing would have gone on and on.Pluralist (Adrian Worsfold)https://www.blogger.com/profile/01922153724523820866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5449677811690616608.post-15438691248539262192009-02-23T22:16:00.000+01:002009-02-23T22:16:00.000+01:00This is just disgusting.It's only because younger ...This is just disgusting.<BR/>It's only because younger people are gullible and woefully ill informed that this "debate" could even be taken seriously.<BR/><BR/>Holocause denial is rightfully a criminal offence in my home country. <BR/><BR/>See also this article in The Times<BR/><BR/>http://tinyurl.com/crf3dm <BR/><BR/>"Rescued Auschwitz plans on show to shame deniers"Erika Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01812376497361267014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5449677811690616608.post-45566246713787884462009-02-23T19:50:00.000+01:002009-02-23T19:50:00.000+01:00I'll let this through, though a few passages in th...I'll let this through, though a few passages in this offered chapter 1 seem rather thin and pointless, like discussing hocus pocus.<BR/><BR/>The interest here is about Williamson, who by press accounts takes an extreme denying view.<BR/><BR/>My point is this: the Nazi regime subjected people to untold cruelty, and once the decision was made for extermination, there were rounds of people uprooted and taken, even as the Nazi regime crumbled they moved and killed Hungarian Jews (for example).<BR/><BR/>Whole areas of Jewish culture in Eastern Europe, and its language, have been lost, a vanishing in towns and villages. Many Jews never made it to any camp: they were killed in groups in forests and also one by one and their property taken. So many died in forced labour.<BR/><BR/>It is a period that cannot be repeated: and yet in the war of the former Yugoslavia such behaviour was repeated.<BR/><BR/>What the Nazis did further was industrialise killing.<BR/><BR/>In one sense, with so much uncertainty about, everyone was affected, and if you were one of those without rights you soon found yourself despised and living day to day, and often walled off until those areas were cleared.<BR/><BR/>I'm suspicious of the motivation for revisionism, and this has clearly to be separated from criticism of Israel today - that's why the Iranian leadership was suspect, as well as comments made.Pluralist (Adrian Worsfold)https://www.blogger.com/profile/01922153724523820866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5449677811690616608.post-72743208294843096022009-02-23T18:11:00.000+01:002009-02-23T18:11:00.000+01:00Dear Friends,Sample Chapters and Contents for New ...Dear Friends,<BR/><BR/>Sample Chapters and Contents for New Book:<BR/><BR/><BR/>http://www.DebatingTheHolocaust.com<BR/><BR/><BR/>DEBATING THE HOLOCAUST: A New Look At Both Sides by Thomas Dalton, PhDMichael Santomaurohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14257040568294637764noreply@blogger.com