tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5449677811690616608.post5727671634419062242..comments2023-12-15T21:49:46.651+01:00Comments on Pluralist Speaks: Be RealisticPluralist (Adrian Worsfold)http://www.blogger.com/profile/01922153724523820866noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5449677811690616608.post-3225075979961924682010-12-01T20:35:49.947+01:002010-12-01T20:35:49.947+01:00I've said that, if I was still over the other ...I've said that, if I was still over the other side of the River Humber, I'd also keep attending but at the cost of remaining silent through much of the service content.Pluralist (Adrian Worsfold)https://www.blogger.com/profile/01922153724523820866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5449677811690616608.post-44853010162187242932010-12-01T16:06:31.037+01:002010-12-01T16:06:31.037+01:00Adrian,
I keep re-evaluating my response to the vo...Adrian,<br />I keep re-evaluating my response to the vote, thanks for your contribution.<br />I agree with most of it, I am truly beginning to believe that the CoE is beyond redemption for the time being.<br />But we don't all live in cities, we don't all have the alternative of just choosing another church.<br /><br />And for me, at least, church is more than Sunday Services, it's at least as much about Community. It means hearing over coffee after the Service how people who, who needs support, what everyone else is doing to help... I couldn't possibly just leave all that aside because the official hierarchy would rather I wasn't there.<br /><br />These issues are always more easily solved in theory than in practice.Erika Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01812376497361267014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5449677811690616608.post-26245960143417518222010-12-01T08:05:03.769+01:002010-12-01T08:05:03.769+01:00By the way, cited this blog post of yours in my Su...By the way, cited this blog post of yours in my <a href="http://heathen-hub.com/blog.php?b=789" rel="nofollow">Sunday/Monday blogs round-up - 28/29 November 2010</a>. I'm not <em>just</em> saying this in the vague hope of eventually scoring a protrait of me out of you myself, I'm sure I must have virtuous reasons somewhere or other.Gurdurhttp://heathen-hub.com/blog.php?u=1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5449677811690616608.post-73805262561485875622010-11-28T21:31:50.657+01:002010-11-28T21:31:50.657+01:00In the USA, we have the United Church of Christ, a...In the USA, we have the United Church of Christ, a union of Congregational, Disciples, and other descendants of New England bodies. The UCC has an admirable approach to social issues, and their website offers many resources. Their ministers don't seem to be much above or beyond the laity. With the clergy-heavy TEC waiting for "Father" or "the Bishop" before much is done, the UCC's congregational structure is appealing. I've wondered about initiating a UCC-Anglican Rite. But it wouldn't get the buildings. And dressing up is losing its appeal. Church gatherings begin to look like costume shows. "Kingdom, power, and glory" in vestments.<br /><br />My husband still goes off to the neighborhood parish, with its aging Anglo and unassimilated Latino congregations. We have ideas about how the place <i>could</i> be revitalized (reach out to the neighborhood; acknowledge the area's large and organized gay community), but we founder on the question: Why? What other than a bit of fellowship does it have to offer? Cosmic and national pretensions are pretty much gone. <br /><br />I regret your pessimism about gay inclusion in the Church, Adrian, but fear you're right. All those same-sex couples getting together, and the GLBT singles contributing in all levels of society ought to make some sort of impression on the Church authorities. But we're absent from the tradition, and God never changes. So the church recedes with the flat earth and Male/Female differences established since Creation. As you say, individuals can move on.Murdoch Matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584498192562407670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5449677811690616608.post-3230883596866598402010-11-28T03:36:42.561+01:002010-11-28T03:36:42.561+01:00I find his blog spooky full stop. No, I'm neit...I find his blog spooky full stop. No, I'm neither trying to cheer you up nor depress you. I'm simply asking some English Anglicans that oppose the drift of the Church of England and who really don't fit to think about doing the decent thing.Pluralist (Adrian Worsfold)https://www.blogger.com/profile/01922153724523820866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5449677811690616608.post-65935166793178524792010-11-27T19:39:31.756+01:002010-11-27T19:39:31.756+01:00Are you trying to cheer me up?
Hadn't noticed...Are you trying to cheer me up?<br /><br />Hadn't noticed that my blog had been quoted by Peter Ould... find that slightly spooky!Lesleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17228191583982936566noreply@blogger.com