
This is how I understand how postmodernisms in different camps come together. In Barth's scheme, the God of revelation is so high and dry you can't see it. No one can approach it - that is corrupt religion. So it has no objective existence, no actuality in history, culture - only in encounter under revelation. So Hans Frei says with no objectivity nor subjectivity it is like the postmodern and is received in the biblical narrative - which is history-like, or biography-like.
So there is a sleight of hand, there. In Radical Orthodoxy postmodernism allows for difference and thus a reassertion of the Platonic, the true and good - but within its bubble. It then gets to be like a bit of a thug (it can when the Church is perfect peace) and says it has the right to truth and something like Sociology is a form of secular theology.

The liberal postmodernism is where each has their own language and nothing is dominant over the other. This is the problem of translating between cultures, discovered in a Social Anthropology that does not want to have Western intellectual terms as superior. You end up with a highly fluid, symbolic religion, Baudrillardian in that the symbols build up and break down. It is the anti-matter with the matter, and never only one of them: so a Eucharist is both real presence and unreal absence and never one. In terms of liberalism, the highly subjective breaks down into the postmodern, especially when the highly subjective tries to live with collective forms, such as shared worship. The Martineau route to postmodernism is the mirror image of the Barthian route; indeed the particular and the general are the opposite. For Martineau the Bible is something that is but an example of something all the greater; for Barth the Bible is the greater and activity identified as religion is the subsumed within it.
For myself, I am probably a high modernist. Sociology isn't just secular theology because it does research and produces, whether valid or regular, answers you don't want. It is not like a novel where you can make it all up. Nor is science.

I'm a soft postmodernist in religion in that I don't believe in the existence of God in any directive sense, but it is a useful 'summary' term about our hopes and fears. But I am not a postmodernist regarding science or anything else - I must be a critical realist. Each subject has a different language game, but that includes degrees of objectivity. Religion has realities of exchange and gift, of the communal and binding, but these are not structural: the poststructural and postmodern can run riot in varieties of interpretations.
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Appreciate your stuff, as always.
When you say, "The big humanist narratives are not narratives like theology: they actually reflect technological achievement." - could a postmodernist not simply respond that the very notion of technological achievement and all that it entails is very much a narrative, and one very much the product of human imagination?
Also, on the use of 'God' as "a useful 'summary' term about our hopes and fears", what do you think of this article by Richard Harries? (I've no doubt that you have read it before...):
http://www.sofn.org.uk/press/harries.html
I see Rachel's in the Derby Telegraph, along with her contemporaries. See http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/story-12861619-detail/story.html
Of course there is a narrative involved, but it links in with what is.
When the Christian claims the same about resurrection, then I say no, but if it is history-like then it is not history, if biography-like then not biography.
I am semi-realist in the sense that I'll tackle these claims as claims - quite happy to do so.
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